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This is the third episode of our monthly ‘Radicals in Conversion’ podcast, which features special guests Charlie Gilmour and Luke Billingham. Luke works for Haven Distribution, a charity that provides books to prisoners, and Charlie spent time inside after protesting at a student demonstration in 2010. We discuss the politics and the pitfalls of the UK’s prison system and how books can ‘open windows’ to those inside.

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CW: suicide